steve, gretchen, brian, back to you in new york. >> steve: that is so true. thank you very much for getting up with us today. >> gretchen: now it's finally time to bring in geraldo who has been patiently sitting. >> good morning. >> gretchen: what did you think of the interruptus fest? >> you know, steve brown just said that generally speaking, vice presidential debates don't move the needle very much. i only disagree to this extent. i think what joe biden did last night was stop the needle from plummeting any further on the democratic side because it was in free fall following the president's woeful performance last week. >> steve: you know what? he seemed to have gone from joe biden gaffe machine to joe biden laugh machine. when paul ryan was talk being very serious things like libya and poor people being murdered over there, the vice president of the us husband a great big goofy grin on his face and it was so unsettling and people at home are going, wait a minute. he's our current vice president? >> you know, i used the baseball game that was on, the yanke